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Daniel Roth at St. Sulpice, Paris – Improvisation « Sortie »
Daniel Roth, Organist Titulaire of the Grandes Orgues of St. Sulpice, improvises on this instrument a « Sortie » upon conclusion of a Sunday mass. Recorded by Tony Valillo 7 February 1999. FROM www.stsulpice.com. NOT TO BE COPIED WITHOUT PERMISSION.
Daniel Roth at St. Sulpice, Paris – Guilmant Andante
Daniel Roth, Organist Titulaire of the Grandes Orgues of St. Sulpice, performs on this instrument Alexandre Guilmant’s « Andante con moto, op. 16 dedié a A. Cavaillé-Coll » during the Communion of a Sunday mass. Recorded by Tony Valillo 7 February 1999. FROM www.stsulpice.com. NOT TO BE COPIED WITHOUT PERMISSION.
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Guilmant did the best thing he could. He payed respect to the genious of Cavaille-Coll. The rest i don’t bother. Its a testimony to the greatest organbuilder of all times.!
This is one of my favorite pieces, and this is absolutely the best interpretation of this i have ever heard! I like very much that « solo » part that begins in 3:15 – in my notebook that part is written differently and it doesn’t sound that good at all.
For me, one of the most important issues surrounding music is WHEN it was written. There has been a wonderful evolution of style since the days of Gregorian Chant. mr. guilmant does not add a thing to that evolutionary process. He couldn’t, for the simple reason that he was not BORN to create music. The fact that he WANTED to doesn’t make it good.
Let’s face it – name calling is childish and we do it out of exasperation – at least I resort to it that way. That said, I respect your opinion re: guilmant. I truly hope that you reach the point where you can truly distinguish between a master composer and a master copycat. guilmant was simply not a composer – he wrote ‘models’ pieces, thinking to himself that it was musical creation. I wrote dozens of such pieces in my training – all of which have no artistic value, but serve technique well.
However, i must defend my original position further by saying that reguardless of the seemingly « unoriginal » nature of the music, i still think it is beautiful in its simplicity.
Alrght, you may have me there. And before i say what i plan to say next, as a Christian, i must apologize for my own er’rs first. I am sorry that i called you a monkey, that was rude and inapropriate. I was simply frustrated about this conversation. That being said, you can call me ignorant all you want, but i would appreciate not being call an idiot. You have a right to your opinion and i must say, the Prose and Hymne from the Organiste Liturgiste do seem a little… Repetative.
You idiot. Brahms never copied anything from anyone else. His unique genius made it possible to HONOR styles of the past but infuse them into his own. You will never understand anything about style, which in itself isn’t a bad thing. What IS a bad thing is IGNORANCE – and that you have plenty of.
you are incredibly tedious
i think its cute that he is mad about guilmant, when he uses Brahms as an example of originality when Brahms prided himself in playing music that did copycat the century before him… but you know guys, you only encourage him by commenting back to him… remember, without a banana the monkey goes away.
organman52, seriously, just stop! Who cares if his music is unoriginal (although its COMPLETELY original), if people enjoy the music then what else matters? I play Guilmant at my church all the time and it always brings great compliments because it is so enjoyable! Anyway, find a piece that sounds like this and his other works, then call him unnoriginal! Just listen to that beautiful tune with a contrasting section at 3:13, stunning! What other composer wrote such beautiful music for organ?